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Do you still think that artists can still sell out? According to the article “Can Today’s Artist still sell out?” 6 different people give their point of views for the situation, like when they were asked about Kendrick Lamar and Reebok. Roy Cook had stated that “Kendrick Lamar clearly sold out. But is there anything wrong with this? Well, sure: compromising one’s personal values or one’s musical integrity is an inherently bad thing.” He believes that Kendrick is a sell out because of how he is compromising his personal values or even his music integrity. But other people might feel differently from Cook, like Another question was “U2 released its 2014 album, “Songs of Innocence,” during a starry product launch for Apple, who inserted the album into half a billion customers’ iTunes libraries without asking them first. Was this an infringement of privacy, or as U2 put it, a gift?”  From Mary Beth Willard point of view she had thought that “U2 made an album for a product launch, and then Apple bizarrely put it in everyone’s iTunes. They wanted to call it a gift of music, but because the music was seen as supporting a product launch, it was taken as akin putting an advertising jingle into your playlist.”

Other people’s point of view on artists selling out goes both ways because you have people who sided with Shen- yi Liao saying Kendrick didn’t sell out, like Claudia Mills when she said “Did Kendrick Lamar sell out when he used his artistry to sell Reebok shoes? If he prioritized realizing his own artistic vision in the making of his central body of musical work, he did not sell out there. But what about using his artistic gifts, in addition, to market shoes? There does not seem to me to be anything in itself problematic about working in advertising; indeed, advertising jingles are some of the most memorable and beloved tunes of my own childhood.” Claudia is saying that he didn’t sell out if he had mad his own artistic vision in his music. Another person was Shen-yi Liao when she said “What about Kendrick Lamar? By the time he did the Reebok advertisements, he already had two major label albums. In my view, he already crossed over to the pop side of hip hop. If we viewed him as a pop artist, then no, that wasn’t selling out—because Kendrick Lamar the pop artist cannot sell out.” Shen thinks that Kendrick can’t sell out because he already had 2 major albums and he had moved on to the pop side of hip hop.

But then you have others like Roy Cook who do believe that Kendrick did sell out like in the article when Erich Hatala Matthes had put a fake dialogue between a fan and kendrick saying “Fan: “Shilling for Reebok is bullshit: you’re woke-washing a subsidiary of Adidas, infamous for their labor violations. It’s completely antithetical to the political spirit of your music. You sold out.” `Lamar: “Eh, I don’t feel like I’ve made my art worse for this commercial, so my artistic standards remain intact.” Then he goes on to say “Let’s just assume that the response is true, that Lamar hasn’t compromised his artistic standards. Why does that still sound like a hollow reply to the fan? I think the answer is that selling out has less to do with an artist compromising their own artistic standards and more to do with their violating the trust of their audience.”

Can artist still sellout?

Roy Cook

“So Kendrick Lamar clearly sold out. But is there anything wrong with this? Well, sure: compromising one’s personal values or one’s musical integrity is an inherently bad thing.” – Compromising personal values and compromising music integrity.

Javier Gomez- Lavin

“Despite my own ossified musical tastes I do want to take a crack at this concept of selling out, which as Chris Richards points out in his original WaPo piece is a loaded but fuzzy concept, one that thrives off its dense links to the broader issues” –Consumerism, late capitalism, social and individual identities, and race.

Shen-yi Liao

“Our point is only about the two distinctive structures of different art concepts. It is an empirical question which art concepts are straightforwardly descriptive, and which art concepts include also defining values.”-

“What about Kendrick Lamar? By the time he did the Reebok advertisements, he already had two major label albums. In my view, he already crossed over to the pop side of hip hop. If we viewed him as a pop artist, then no, that wasn’t selling out—because Kendrick Lamar the pop artist cannot sell out.”

Erich Hatala Matthes

“Mills repeatedly emphasizes that it is violation of the artist’s own standards that should serve as the relevant benchmark when it comes to judging whether they have sold out: her paradigmatic case concerns an artist who themself believes they have intentionally made their work worse due to non-artistic motivations, such as fame or fortune.”

“Often, judgments about whether an artist has sold out are made from the third-person (or, more accurately, second-person) perspective, rather than the first-person perspective. While an artist could very well reflect on whether they themselves have sold out, selling out is paradigmatically a charge or accusation made against someone else.”

Claudia Mills

“Did Kendrick Lamar sell out when he used his artistry to sell Reebok shoes? If he prioritized realizing his own artistic vision in the making of his central body of musical work, he did not sell out there. But what about using his artistic gifts, in addition, to market shoes? There does not seem to me to be anything in itself problematic about working in advertising; indeed, advertising jingles are some of the most memorable and beloved tunes of my own childhood.”

Mary Beth Millard

“Kendrick Lamar didn’t sell out to Reebok. He’s collaborating to make shoes that signify equality. The human connection stays intact also because the artists can directly speak to fans without appearing to go through a publicist or journalist or PR firm.”

Playlist songs

I chose those 5 songs because each of those songs are different in their own way because of the rappers type of flow. Pop Smoke is more of an up fast hype beat that is more hype music but then you have someone like J Cole who is more lyrical who is more mellow with a little up tempo beat with it. Juice Wrld is kind of lyrical but the kind of beats that he just has is amazing and how he makes his songs. But, then you have Drake and Meek Mill who are more of a casual beat but when there rapping it sounds like they are talking just because of the kind of style that they have. Lastly, is DaBaby whose music is a hype beat but at the same time he’s rapping and what he is saying is making since even when he starts to rap really fast.

Project 2

Markel McKnight

English 123

Feb. 16th 2020

Professor Drown

I listen to different types of music just because each style of music is unique in it’s own way.  But the kind of music I listen to regularly has to be rap and hip-pop, some of the rappers I listen to are G Herbo, Lil Uzi Vert, J Cole, Fivio Foreign, Polo G, Juice Wrld, and etc. When I’m listening to rap I feel like I can connect to what they’re saying because I grew up in a similar environment so I really understand what they are saying when they start rapping about coming from nothing and now they’re something. Like when G Herbo had said “I ride dolo ’cause I found out niggas wasn’t solid

I thought you was riding forever

Ninety percent of these n****s is b***hes

They find theyselves snitchin’ tryna lie to detectives

(F**k is you talking for?)”

In that verse when he said that he means that he doesn’t hangout with a lot of people because almost every guy will snitch on will on you to the cops just because they try to lie to the detectives. J Cole is another rapper that actually has a meaning to something when he is rapping like in the song “Love Yourz” when he “I grew up in the city and though sometimes we had less

Compared to some of my n****s down the block man we were blessed

And life can’t be no fairytale, no once upon a time”

When he said that he was meaning that he grew up in a city where he had less than compared to other people in his community.

But, then you just have other musicians who are awful and don’t make sense at all when they talk like the band “Disturbed” or “Asking Alexandria.” For example, when I heard the song“Down With The Sickness” that “Disturbed” wrote it literally made no sense at all because they were just screaming for most of the song. Can you feel that?

“Ah, shit

Oh, ah, ah, ah, ah

Oh, ah, ah, ah, ahoh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh” , that was the intro to the song now if you actually hear the song with all the sound and screaming you might lose your mind. The kind of music I can never see myself listening to has to be like Orchestra, Metal, Heavy Rock, and more like that because those types of music don’t really have that something that pops out to me like rap and hip-pop do. Others may feel the same way about the music I listen to. I learned plenty of things people say about it like “It’s too thug” ,“They don’t make sense in what they’re saying” , and more . But the real reason why others don’t like it is because they don’t understand what it’s like to come from an environment where you see people living off section 8 or worrying about being at the wrong place at the wrong time especially when it’s night out. 

Eng123 essay

If the athletes at University of New England were to speak out against the national anthem how do you think people are going to react to that? There will be all the news places from around the area on this campus so fast, it will be in the headlines of just about almost all the newspapers, and would be talked about on the radio. Just like when Kaepernick sat down for the anthem but then took a knee to not mean harm to anyone.The press was going crazy for that because it was such a big deal to the point where he had lost his job. But what people don’t get is just because you are a college athlete you are not speaking out with a purpose. College athletes will always have a chip on their shoulder just because of other people’s persauna on them. People’s point of view of the situation is different because the presidents aspect compared to the athletes are different.The presidents point of view could be different things like he could be pissed and punish them or he might understand the reasoning behind and wouldn’t be mad. But he’s the type to come to some sort of fair agreement because it’s not fair for the athletes to not stand up for what they believe in.In the athletes mind they think that they’re doing something good just because they are standing up for what they believe in. Speaking from an athletes perspective we do have a say too just because we’re athletes doesn’t make us dumb. Athletes could’ve been speaking out on many things like white on black crime, police brutality, and etc. When they take a knee though people around them make it such a bigger deal than it actually needs to be even though they don’t want any harm they just strong believers. An analysis of the situation is that if the athletes actually have a valid reason to take a knee the president is willing to make a deal with them. Parents’ point of view may be different as well because there will be some parents who will hate that and start talking about how that group or individual is disrespecting the flag and the anthem. But in the anthem it says “One nation under God” you can’t be one nation when you have people killing each other for many reasons.